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Wishing all a very Merry Christmas and a Blessed New Year!
The winner of the Solo stove and Solo 900 pot give away is….
I want to thank everyone for some great comments. The create the caption had me entertained for the last week and I hope you had fun with it!
It was fun to read the comments, unfortunately I only have one set to give away.
We will do this again in the future.
Congratulations to muralt! You win! Rather than randomly select a winner, I had a panel of caption experts… my family pick the winner. 5/5 all picked muralt and his caption, “Hmmm…I wonder, if I sing a Christmas carol SOLO will more cooksets appear?”
I hope you enjoy the set as much as I do.
Send me your address via email, email@example.com and I will get it in the mail for you.
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During Scoutmaster conferences I often ask the Scout what the Scout Oath and Law mean to them. In their own words what do the values and the promises found in the Oath and Law mean.
It seems that, by and large, there is a lack of knowledge in so far as defining what “Duty” means with our younger Scouts. With our older Scouts too for that matter.
When I was a young Scout, right after we walked up hill both ways in the snow, it seems to me that we were taught in School, home, and Church what Duty meant and what our role was in keeping our promises and understanding what our duty was when it comes to our daily lives. In Scouts we knew what our duty was when it came to being Reverent and Helpful. We had an understanding about our Duty to our Country.
The other night I took the opportunity while talking with a young man during a Scoutmaster Conference to discuss what duty meant and what he needed to know about it. The discussion started because the Scout didn’t understand why he said those words when he recited the Scout Oath.
I started with a basic definition so he could get at least an understanding of duty. I first asked if he felt like he had a responsibility to be helpful. He said yes. I asked if he felt an obligation to be a good citizen. He said yes, but really didn’t know what that really meant at his age. I then asked him if he felt that he should be committed to doing his best, staying healthy, and doing well in school so he could have a better life. All of those he felt that he was committed to.
I told him that duty is just that, a responsibility, a commitment, and an obligation to something. In our case as Scouts those are found in our Scout Oath to God and our Country, to other people, and to ourselves.
Duty to me has always been a solid concept of how we live our lives. As a soldier, I was bound to serving our Country and as a leader my duty was to the soldiers I led.
As a Father, my responsibility has always been to making me children good people. I was told once that it is not my job as a Dad to raise good children, rather it was my duty to raise good adults.
As a Husband my obligation is to my wife. To be her partner through thick and thin and to show her unconditional love.
As a Scout leader I am committed to men of Character. Making Eagle Scouts is not my priority, teaching young men to grow up and be men that have Character, are good citizens, and have an understanding and habit of being fit. That is what is important to me. Why? Because it is my Duty.
I shared these things to my young Scout. It helped him gain a better understanding of why, in the Scout Oath, we use the term “Duty”.
Knowing that it make the Scout Law more important, it focuses the Scouts outlook toward God and Country and helping others. It creates a want to be his best and take care of himself and those around him.
Some may say that I am reading into this, I say no… I am teaching it for what it is. A promise.
If we don’t keep our promises we compromise our character, when we do that, we have nothing. We need to understand that we have a Duty to be good Scouts, Scouts that live the Oath and Law in our daily lives.
It is the foundation of Scouting. Baden Powell understood that when he started this. These concepts have been passed from generation to generation. William “Green Bar Bill” Hillcourt understood this and made it the hallmark of his writings on Scouting. Scoutmasters for years have held true to these concepts in the teaching their Scouts and for whatever reason there has been a disconnect in our young men today. It is my duty to change that. I will do that one Scout at a time.
Do you feel that same obligation?
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Here is a technique for anchoring your tent. In this video, I demonstrate using a snow stake. A stick works just as well. Snow stakes are versatile and light and are worth carrying into camp.
It is important to anchor your tent well. Winter conditions typically include heavy winds so no matter what or how much gear you have in your tent, to keep your tent and the rest of your gear in good repair, anchor your tent well.
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Getting a good nights sleep is an important part of any camp out, and very important when camping in the cold. Sleeping in the cold creates some anxiety in young Scouts. While the Scout is up and moving he can control his level of warmth. Teaching the Scout that it is possible to be warm in the winter will help him get a good nights sleep.
First, lets talk gear.
When I talk gear for sleeping, I refer to it as a sleep system. The system may vary depending on conditions, temperature, and he person.
The sleep system consists if the Sleeping bag, the sleeping pad (insulation), and sleep clothing. You may add to the system a sleeping bag liner, a bivy sack, and of course a pillow.
The sleeping bag is the base of the system. The rating of the bag needs to be at least 20 degrees. Lover is preferred especially when the temps are known to frequently dip below 20 degrees. Adding the sleeping bag liner will add another 10 degrees of warmth to you in the bag and is a light weight, inexpensive option to adding warmth.
Down versus Synthetic? It really does not matter. They are equally as warm, down is going to cost more, but you will get your savings in weight. Down needs to stay dry to keep warm. Synthetic materials fair better than down when wet or damp. Which is an important consideration when coaching Scouts on which type of bag to purchase.
It used to be popular opinion to wear as little as possible when in your sleeping bag, now however, your clothing is considered a part of your sleep system.
First thing to remember is whatever you decide to wear, it needs to be clean and dry. For most that means wearing a clean set of poly pro long underwear. Again, keep in mind that it is easier to stay warm than to re warm. Change into your “sleeping clothing” when you are warm. Boil up some water and drink a hot beverage. While you are drinking, boil up enough water to put in a water bottle. Throw it in your sleeping bag as you change into your sleep clothes. Hand warmers are also a good way to preheat the bag.
A change of your socks is also a great idea. If you are like me, your feet are the first thing to get cold. Dry socks going into a sleeping bag is fantastic and will keep you warmer. Find a real thick pair of wool socks, you know, the kind that you would never hike in but look super comfy. Wear them at night to keep your feet warm.
Possumdown socks or a good thick merino wool sock are what I find to work the best.
The set up of your gear is important. Get out of the elements.
Don’t sleep in low ground. Cold air settles in low ground. When selecting your sleep area, where you pitch your tent, make sure you stay on the upper part of the slope. If you must pitch camp in low ground, dig a sump outside of the door of your tent. This will pull the cold air away from you as you sleep.
Vent your Tent. If you fail to vent you will wake up wet, condensation will form in your tent. You can expect a little, but if you don’t vent you will certainly get too much moisture in your tent. This is bad for your gear and also will make your packing a bit harder.
The sleeping bag liner is a great piece of gear. It is perhaps the biggest addition to my winter gear. Adding ten degrees to my sleeping bag, it is made of fleece, which absorbs some moisture from my breath at night, keeps my bag dry, and takes away the feel of cold nylon as I slip into my bag.
Getting a great nights sleep is critical when camping. Staying warm is key. Knowing your sleep system and how to use it is an important skill in winter camping.
We will talk more about winter camping in our next post.
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Today I was putting up the Christmas lights and getting the tree ready to decorate. Carols being sung in the background and the smell of Christmas in the air. When what to my wandering mind did ah ha!!! A give away of gear!
So here is the way it’s going to work… Create the Caption.
1st. You must “Like” this post.
2nd. In the comments section create a caption for this picture!
3rd. “Like” us on Facebook. If you already “like” us on Facebook, Thank You!
The caption that I like the most wins!
What do you win? A brand new, in the box, Solo Stove and the Solo Stove 900 Pot! This is a great prize!
The winner will be picked on December 21st, 2014.
Good Luck! I can’t wait to see the comments!
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Just as a recap… Cold weather camping is a High Risk activity that is challenging, fun, and rewarding for those that venture into the cold weather environment. This type of camping takes discipline, skills, and a great attitude.
Once leaders understand their role in accountability to those they lead, monitor behavior, and maintain the same “can do” attitude, they will provide fun programs in the cold weather camping environment.
In this post we are going to continue some of the discussion on training for camping in the cold, focusing on some of the skills that need to be developed to ensure a safe, fun outing.
Obviously what you wear and how you wear it is a skill in and of itself. Knowing when to layer up or down takes skills and awareness of the conditions.
How all of this clothing gets packed require a skill set also. Those skills need to be practiced and repeated. One of the ways in which we develop that skill is simply to have the Scouts pack and repack. They unpack, set up, and then repack in fair conditions. The second evolution is practiced with gloves on. The same skills worked over and over.
It is once the Scout can do these skills that we practice outside, in the cold. You will see the mastery of this skill proven at that point.
Understanding that the simple skill of packing a backpack in the cold can have a huge impact on the fun of the outing. A Scout that struggles with this skill will place himself in painful situation and prolong his time spent being cold. Remember that it is easier to stay warm than to rewarm. Packing is a skill that will help the Scout find success in the cold. Nylon gets cold and as the Scout packs he is in contact with cold material that may also be icy or wet. It is important to do this correctly the first time so he can quickly return to activity that keeps him warm.
The Scout needs to understand that there is an order to his packing so he can access those items that he will need throughout the day to stay warm, cook meals, and move in and out of layers. He also needs to understand how his gear works so he can have quick set up and take down periods.
His tent should be set up and modified to meet the Scouts needs in the cold. Guy lines added and tied to the tie out points. Knots pre tied and line measured to specific lengths so there is not a lot of adjustments to be made.
A plan for anchoring his tent needs to be made and practiced. I do not worry about snow stakes. A stick will do or a regular tent stake placed in the snow sideways will hold the tent in place. Additional guy lines may be needed in the event of heavy winds or snow. Have those lines in place before you go. A simple bowline tied at the end of the line will make for quick set up and take down.
Digging a cold sump outside of the tent will pull cold air away from you as you sleep. Cold air settles in low ground, creating that low space will keep you warmer at night. You will also have a place to sit and put your boots on and fire up the stove to boil water for a nice cup of hot chocolate.
Cooking in the cold is another challenge that requires a few more skills than boiling water.
First the Scout needs to understand that eating is critical for staying warm in the cold weather environment. Eating keeps you hydrated, it keeps you warm and comfortable, and it provides the nutrients to keep you going. When you cook or boil water, it is a good way to treat that water and get fluids into your system. Dehydration is the number one cold weather injury. Scouts do not feel thirsty because it is cold. It is when you feel thirsty that you are in the early stages of dehydration. Cooking a meal and having a cold or warm drink with help prevent dehydration.
The gear used for cooking needs attention and skill to accomplish the cooking of your meal. Liquid fuels such as white gas are very reliable in the cold. Canister fuels work well also, but you need to keep the canister warm. Throw it in your sleeping bag at night. Keep it in a wool sock. Use a small square of Closed Cell Foam pad to set the canister on as you cook. This insulates and keeps the fuel warmer.
Why do I consider cooking a skill for the cold weather, well there is great emphasis in cooking in the cold. You can not get away with quick trail meals. You need to eat warmer meals to stay warm. The average person burns about 2700 calories a day in the summer. In the winter you need to be prepared to burn about 4000 a day. Considering this, it takes skill in planning and preparing those meals, not to mention getting them into camp. Again, packing becomes a tremendous skill that pays off.
We teach the acronym C.O.L.D. Clean, Overheating, Layers, and Dry. This simple acronym is all about skills.
Staying clean, both your body and your clothing. Dirty, oily clothing allows for water to seep as well as wind. This will not protect you against the elements any longer. You must stay as clean as you can. A quick wipe down before you go to bed and when you get up in the morning will keep you warmer. Keeping from Overheating will reduce sweat and therefore will keep you warmer. Reducing the amount of moisture on the body will keep you from freezing. We do this by wearing loose layers. An effective layering system of clothing that will assist you in regulating your temperature keeping your comfortable and warm. And finally staying dry. Staying out of the snow when it is critical to stay dry. This means changing after playing in the snow or digging a snow cave. Water is your enemy in the cold (unless you are drinking it). Remember C.O.L.D. to stay Warm!
Before setting up your tent, pack the snow. You are your buddy, walk with your snow shoes stamping down a platform for your tent. It need not be too much bigger than the footprint of the tent. Pack it so you no longer punch through when you walk. This will provide a comfortable platform to sleep on and make it easier to set up your tent.
This also keeps you from possible tearing a hole in the floor of your tent should you step through a patch of unpacked snow.
It is counter intuitive to think about opening your tent, but make sure your tent is vented well. This will reduce condensation keeping your tent and the rest of your gear dryer, thus keeping you warmer.
In part three, we will discuss sleeping in the cold.
What do you think? Are you ready to get out there and camp in the cold…
Let me know what you think. What winter camping skill do you think is the most important?
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Camping in the cold is adventurous and fun. It poses challenges and requires more training to ensure a safe, fun time spent in the winter camping.
I love cold weather camping, it is perhaps some of my favorite camping. Since becoming a Scoutmaster, I have taken pride in sharing that love of winter camping with the Scouts of my Troop. On average, we camp about 3 times a year in a cold weather environment. We have been very successful during these camp outs because of the training that we do before the outing.
So what do we do to make our winter outings successful? Training, accountability, and skills development.
Cold weather camping all starts with good training. We have a rule, not a policy, that if a Scout does not attend all of the training he does not go on cold weather camp outs.
We do this simply for safety. The safety of the scout and his buddies. Any high risk activity requires training above and beyond your typical camping skills.
Cold weather injury prevention takes a good portion of the training. We teach the Scouts first how to prevent cold weather injuries.
Developing the skills of the Scout to prepare for camping in the cold, identify those symptoms of cold weather injuries and then treatment. It should be noted that as stated we average about three cold weather camp outs a year as a Troop, and when I refer to cold weather camp outs, I am talking about sub freezing temperatures. For the past ten years we have been using this training plan and have never had a cold weather injury. I suppose I should pay respect to my Scouting friends in Alaska and Minnesota.. we do not get the temps you all get and I would think you all have similar training programs. Cold weather injuries are cold weather injuries no matter where you are.
Subjects under the topic of cold weather injuries include; Hypothermia, Frost Bite, Chill Blains, Frost nip, snow blindness, and immersion foot.
We move on from injuries to layering and proper wear of clothing. We discuss how and when to layer up or down and the right clothing for the outing. When it comes to clothing, we teach that it is easier to stay warm than to re-warm. The idea that re-warming takes time and energy that you may want to save.
Clothing plays a major role in Cold weather camping. Not just a lot of clothing, but the right clothing. Moving from cotton shirts that keep moisture on the body thus cooling you, to synthetic shirts that wick the sweat away from you. Jackets that insulate as well as protect from the elements. A layering system that allows you to move as well as stand around. Gloves that work for completing camp tasks as well as keeping your fingers, hands, and wrist warm.
Hats that warm and protect from wind while keeping your head dry.
There is a lot more that goes into developing your clothing list. Keeping in mind that you still have to carry it in your pack, bulk plays a part in your packing list. Extra socks are always a must, consideration needs to be made as to when you are going to change them, where you carry them, and how many do you need. A thick pair of wool socks to sleep in may be packed in with your sleep system while your smart wool socks worn for hiking and moving around camp may be packed on top for easy access.
If you are like me, once your feet get cold, I am cold. So maintaining warmth by frequent changing of socks is a must for me.
Part of the training program is a discussion of using existing gear. Using a three season tent to stand up to heavy snow and winds. Adding a layer in a sleeping bag to give an additional ten degrees of warmth. And how to make your stove the most efficient it can be in the cold.
A big area of our preparation for cold weather camping is the matter of accountability. This is a touchy subject for some, but it is a matter of safety and therefore non negotiable. A Scout must attend the four meetings leading to the first winter camp out. This way he gets the training required and has an opportunity to work with the rest of the troop on the skills needed for winter outings.
Being accountable to one another is an important part of this process. The Scouts are accountable to one another. When they understand that they can not have a “me” attitude, they start to pay close attention to what their buddy is doing and how they are a member of that team. We teach that cold weather injury prevention is a leaders responsibility. Leadership and Discipline are the two key components in cold weather camping. Leaders that care for their patrols will keep an eye on them. They will watch for the signs of cold weather issues. They will keep their patrol motivated an on task. They start building that high performance team with the understanding that they are all in this together. It takes the whole patrol watching out for each other, pitching in with camp chores, set up, take down, meal prep, etc. that makes the experience one they won’t forget.
When we talk about accountability we need to ensure that the Scout understands that he is an important part in the safety of his buddy and himself. Most Scouts will go through their Scouting life following the leader. Cold weather camping forces the issue of leadership on each Scout.
Accountability starts with the Scout being required to attend the meetings and training. If the Scout fails to attend the required meetings and training the result is the Scout not being able to attend the outing. When it comes to this we stand firm. Training and developing the required skills are important, when a Scout does not get the training, he is setting himself up for a possible injury or at least increasing the risk of himself and his buddies.
The Scout is accountable for his attitude. A lack of enthusiasm for the outing or having a negative attitude is not a good fit in the group dynamic in the cold weather environment. Being able to keep that positive outlook is important. You will need it when the conditions seem to be fighting you and you feel as though the task is out of hand. Understanding that you can and will get through the conditions is mostly in your attitude.
We will leave this discussion right here for now… we will pick up with the skills discussion in our next post.
Have a Great Scouting Day!
COLD WEATHER TIP
Warm up socks and boot insoles by keeping them in the sleeping bag next to you.
As with many other things in Scouting, some “rules” get made up as they go. Cell Phones? NO.. No electronics on Scouting Outings. Not written down anywhere from the BSA, but ask many Scouters and they will proclaim this as gospel.
Knives, same thing. Throw that subject out at a Round Table and you will get 50 different “policies” on what can and can not be used.
So, lets talk about one of my favorite subjects. Stoves. According to my wife, I have a stove addiction. I have many makes and models. Various fuel types and uses. Yeah, I like stoves. My go to stoves are the Fancee Feast stove, the one I am using now is from Swankfly, but now that he is out of the stove business Zelph at Woodgaz stoves is the guy to get them now. My other go to is the Solo Stove wood gas stove. I absolutely love this stove.
I also have the MSR Whisper lite, a great liquid fuel (multi fuel) stove. Then there are a few more alcohol stoves. The Trangia, which is an indestructible stove. Its Swedish construction is second to none. The Mini heat from Smokeeater 908. Cool remote feed stove that is build like a tank, but so light you don’t know its in your pack. Tato Gear’s AB13 Hybrid alcohol stove is another stove that I like to throw in the pack from time to time. Great for baking, the remote feed allows for hours of cooking on a single light.
I have a collection of canister stoves, the Snow Peak Giga Power, MSR Pocket Rocket, and a few Jet Boil systems along with Esbit solid fuel stoves.
So I like stoves.
But what am I allowed to use in the BSA? All of the above.
The official BSA policy is simple. As long as you did not make it, you can use it.
You can use alcohol, as long as you use denatured alcohol. You can use White gas, Diesel, kerosene, and solid fuel like the Esbit fuel tabs.
You can not make a pop can stove. I suppose the BSA is leary of Scouts not doing it right. In fact the policy says you can’t make your own stove period.
Fuels are to be used as intended and carried in a fuel container that is designed for that purpose. For example, if you are using Denatured Alcohol, you need to carry it in a fuel bottle. Putting your fuel in an old pop bottle or generic bottle is not authorized.
So the myth of Alcohol stoves being banned is just that.. a myth.
The myth that you can not use wood stoves.. just that… a myth.
Liquid fuel stoves too dangerous for Scouts and therefore banned.. a myth.
I was told that wood gas stoves can not be used because you can’t turn them off. Huh, what? Can’t turn them off? You can put out a fire in a fire pit right? Then you can put out a wood gas stove.
Alcohol and wood stoves can not be regulated.. they are on or off. Ahhh.. again, nope, not in all cases. Trangia, Esbit, Solo, and remote Feed stoves all can be snuffed out and regulated for temperature.
So again.. myth busted.
In my last post I encouraged you to allow alternative gear to be used. Allow the Scouts to seek adventure and try new things. When it comes to stoves, really there are not many restrictions other than making your own.
Here is what it comes down to. Training.
You teach the Scout to use the Coleman two burner stove right? Then teach him to use an alcohol stove properly.
Teach him to use his MSR pocket rocket or Dragon fly the right way and it will serve it’s purpose without anyone getting hurt.
When the Scout is properly trained and trusted, he will do the right thing and have fun in his outdoor experience.
Technology and research have produced some really cool stoves. Let them try it.
Many Scouts in my Troop have started using the Vargo Titanium stove. They are available at REI and other out fitters.
They are solid as Sears and work great. They can be turned off (or put out) and get a good boil or simmer if you need it.
They are nice an light and you can cook what ever you would cook on your Coleman stove with them. And we allow them to use them because they can.
I highly recommend this as a great stove to get Scouts and Scouters into using Alcohol Stoves.
Here is the Vargo Official Video for the Triad Alcohol Stove.
So that’s what you can use… Stoves. Most all of them are available to your Scouts. Do not make up policy because you are afraid of change. Do not be set in your ways so a Scout does not get the chance to explore. Don’t give in to the myths that have been passed down from one old Scouter to the next.
The fact is, there are lots of choices out there. Exploring is part of the Scouting way.
Give them a try.
Have a Great Scouting Day!
As you know by reading the blog, I am a fan of gear. I like to play around with gear, test it, try it, and change it often. There are pieces of gear that I love and pieces of gear that I am always looking for the newer, better, more efficient, or just cool. Lately I have been in a few discussions about some gear like knives and stoves. What is significant about these discussions is the idea that for a lot of Scouters there is little knowledge about what is allowed, what is not, and what is out there to show to your Scouts as gear choices.
Take a look at all the old Field books and Hand books, Peek into the Boy Scout catalogs, it’s all the same stuff. All the old-time tested and true gear. It all works well and is super reliable. I don’t have a problem with any of it, but just because it has always been there and done that way does not make it the only or best way to do it.
At a few recent Boy Scout break outs at round table we have talked about gear and gear alternatives. Much of the discussion focusing on stoves and knives. As discussed in my recent post “The Great Knife Debate“, it amazes me that many Scouters just do not know the rules. They perpetuate a rule that does not exist for what ever reason, but the net result is not the safety of the Scout, but a lack of exposure to new and different ways of doing the same old thing. The same can be said for alcohol stoves. The BSA has prohibited the use of “Homemade” stoves. And I can see that the BSA does not want some Scout to get hurt because his leaders failed to train him on how to do it right. But the use of alcohol stoves in general is not prohibited. Manufactured of purchased stoves are not prohibited and I am glad for that. I exclusively use an alcohol stove and scouts in my troop are using them also. I teach them how and make sure they do it right. There is nothing unsafe about them, well, they are about as unsafe as using an MSR Whisperlite. It comes down to training them to use it correctly. Stores like REI and many online outdoor outfitter are selling alcohol stoves. And the fact is you can use them to cook anything.
I can bake, fry, simmer, and of course boil water with them. Here is the point. They are an alternative way to do the same old thing. Camping, Cooking, sleeping in a shelter, whether that is a tent, a tarp, or a bivy sack is all the same. Camping is camping. There are many methods and ways to go about it, but in the end it’s all the same.
You also know that I am a big fan of wood stoves (like the Solo Stove). They are a great way to cook. It takes a little skill and you can absolutely cook anything with them. I have had Scouters tell me that one can not use them because you can’t turn them off. Huh? What? First Class Requirement 4 e states; On one camp out, serve as your patrol’s cook. Supervise your assistant(s) in using a stove or building a cooking fire. Prepare the breakfast, lunch, and dinner planned in requirement 4a. In the most previous edition of the Boy Scout handbook Second Class requirement 2g required the Scout to; On one camp out, plan and cook over an open fire one hot breakfast or lunch for yourself, selecting foods from the food pyramid. Explain the importance of good nutrition. Tell how to transport, store, and prepare the foods you selected.
So in one edition of the hand book, we have decided to dumb down the Scouting experience not make it a requirement to cook over an open fire, but it’s a choice. But it’s still there and it always has been. But in checking the Guide to Safe Scouting I can’t find anywhere that suggests wood stoves are prohibited or cooking over an open flame is prohibited because you can’t put it out. You see, to me that is just a way for Scouters to impose a rule that is not there when it comes to gear.
There are lots of great gear alternatives out there. Allow your Scouts to explore them.
Many of the Scouts in my troop are moving to camping under tarps. Some are using you standard 10X10 Wal Mart tarp, while most are going to good camping tarps. SilNylon tarps that are light and easy to put up. Some even have built-in doors and can be pitched between trees or using their trekking poles. I love the idea that the Scouts are exploring different gear and ways to camp. It keeps it fun and exciting for them.
I suppose the bottom line is that there are many options out there, as a Scouter you should gain an understanding and knowledge of that gear and not push it aside just because you don’t like it.
We had this same debate during the 2010 National Jamboree. Many ‘older Scouters’ did not like the idea of allowing the Scouts to bring and use “Electronics”. There was a misconceptions that electronics are not allowed in Scouting. No where is this found in writing. I allowed the Scouts of my Jamboree Troop to bring their “electronics”. Cell phones, Ipods, and of course cameras. I wanted them to be able to communicate with me and other Scouts, I wanted to be able to shoot a text to the troop when I needed to make quick contact with them. I wanted the Senior Patrol Leader to be able to get everyone on the bus on time and sent group texts to better communicate with his Troop. We established “No ear bid zones” Touring at Arlington National Cemetery for example was a No Ear Bud zone. Sitting on the bus for two hours however was not. As long as the Scouts obeyed the rules, I allowed them to use the electronics.
The same goes for their gear. As long as they use it as intended, be it a stove, knife, or any other piece of gear, I allow and encourage them to try new things.
This is a big part of the adventure of Scouting.
Get to know some new gear. Pick something to try with your Scouts. Try something new.
Allow the adventure of Scouting to happen.
Have a Great Scouting Day!